گفتگو پیرامون کمونیسم و سوسیالیسم

[kourosh_bikhoda]

Socialism and Medicine
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[Mehrbod]

این با اندیشه کاپیتالیسم که می‌گوید هر کس بایستی خود با سرمایه خود برود خودش را بیمه کند دگرسانی دارد

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گویا پاسخ این جا افتاده بود.

فلسفه اقتصاد آزاد (Free Enterprise) که پایه و شالوده capitalism است این را می‌گوید.

از سایت نامبرده هم تنها بازنمود و توضیح آن را می‌خواستید:

In the free enterprise economic system, man struggles to produce. If a new product is born, it can create a new market. It has been estimated that each dollar spent on a product will generate about nine dollars in the GNP. It pays for salaries and goods that in turn generates other sales and labor. These dollars create wealth that in turn brings a higher living standard for everyone who produces...

Having said all these true things, the fact remains: Old people at the point of greatest medical need are also at the lowest earning point of their lives. The public has an obligation to alleviate that suffering. Still, to lavish unbridled care on all, whether needy or not, is a stupid decision. What should be done may be described in two sentences: Those that are needy should receive help. The help given must be needed. This service may be public supported but should be administered locally so that both requirements may be more easily verified.


So Medicare was born. In its original form it was a government socialization of the medical needs of the elderly, paid for by the government (don't give me this stuff that they pay part of it out of their social security, both social security and Medicare are paid by the government and come from taxes). And no hardship qualification is required. And the establishment of need for the service is not required. And no limit is placed on cost.

Medicine had been free enterprise until that point. Even medical insurance (a voluntary form of medical socialization) was scarce and expensive. The relationship between the doctor and the patient was both personal and economic. Since the patient was spending his own money, he was frugal. Since the doctor received his income directly from the patient, he was personable in his service and caring in his approach. He was also careful not to overcharge.

Personal & Economic ≠ Public & Social